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Junkogen
02-26-2009, 04:50 PM
[this was given to me by meek? to pass along to all of you]


*gets on his soapbox*

*rings the cowbell swiped from one of StockDiesel’s mingers*

Hear ye, hear ye, ye bitches. ;D

What it dookie, Basement X?

First and foremost, I cum to you, asslickers, in most humble form. I’m nothing but a former member destined and longing for obscurity that I embrace.

I told myself I wasn’t gon’ do this because ::

1) I am busy! I am so busy, it hurts!!

2) I thought I was eventually coming back anyway.

3) I don’t particularly care to address such (non-)issues unworthy of not just my, but any and e’eryone’s time.

However, when a brother needs help and is getting ganged up on, I will take exception and have his back, rest assured. Hahah… I didn’t register though so I still stayed w/in my self-imposed boundaries.

*pops collar*

*flips you the bird*

Where to start? :D

A’ight…. I guess… “WOW.” It’s like I ne'er left, mang. XD I suppose I should be flattered ‘cause even bad publicity is still publicity after all. ;D

I could approach this in many different ways, you see, but I choose to do it mostly by addressing some history to the people I grew to care about because they are the only ones that matter and they deserve some clarity. So onwards to the doom and gloom…

When a discussion is facilitated and is allowed to escalate to the point when a poster says to a friend of 5 plus years…

if you put something like, "if that's how it's going to be, I'm leaving" on the table, then I'd rather you leave, because I'm not giving into that. There's no way your one voice and extreme action is going to make me reconsider my stance on this.

… then, yes. That is a cause for concern and I’m more than willing to interject where others observe w/ smug tented fingers.

I can be cute about it and reply line-by-line to each and e'ery useless bullshit reasoning, but I learned my lesson well long ago. It’s a waste o’ time and it’s not funny. I won’t be changing minds here. I’ll bring y’all up to speed.

A lil’ background information. Long ago, some MSD brats came to seemin’ly darken our doorstep. I belie’e CBKA came first so I reached out to welcome. He was a decent young person and contributed average and decent posts. I don’t exactly remember which came first, but a lil’ after they arrived, before or after the fateful blow they gave to their own first major impression, I caught a moment when the artist formerly known as Saudi Gaylord and CeeB revealed that the reason why they came was ‘cause they read someone from their board claimin’ that we were clicky assholes that ignored new members. And guess what? We proved whomever said that right! CeeB and Spacey were ignored in the beginning and that’s when the anal rapin’ ramped up. Did they get the attention they sought thereafter? Fa sho! ;D They got so much of it, bitches even now think they still talk ‘bout it on a regular. lol!

Behind the scenes, many called for their heads. Most called for their banning. While Kid made several attempts to keep the two tamed in his signature Kid-O ways, which I found to be generous and innovative for the short-term btw, I argued that the best way to deal with them and our reputation for the long-term is to engage them when they were actin’ like human beings ;D and deny them the acknowledgment they sought when they were actin’ like horny-ass bonobos. I wanted to change their minds and allow them to see for themselves how great our members were. @ the time, I was on an inclusivity trip ‘cause Null Spacers migrated or were in the process of migratin’ to our home! I don’t regret fighting for CeeB and Spacey’s right to stay @ all ‘cause, in the end… they actually stayed where others left and showed better sides of their humanity that I knew had to exist. More on them later.

Despite what the old guard and their loyalists would have you believe, the big BX implosion didn’t occur when anal rape jokes shared b/w CeeB and Spacey ran rampant. Did 2 or 3 people leave then? Yes, they did. But the big implosion occurred when Kid-O and ShadowMan went to town w/ the arguments about anythin’ and e’erythin’ under the sun… most significantly the deletion of forums. This included the notorious Chimanda and Philosophy forums. By the time the dust settled, forums and threads were removed, lots of bad vibes bounced off members and suddenly it became commonplace to argue w/ one another. Sound familiar yet? The Hot Topics/Debate forum was a bedrock for hostilities and lots of valued members found their last days there ending discussion after discussion disagreeably. I can’t blame them. It was the example set by leadership and that includes me @ the time. Eventually, a large majority of people gradually dropped out then because it stopped bein’ fun. That’s what normal people naturally do. So you see, in reality, only a handful left because of the so-called smut threat. And that’s a generous estimate. And their friends left because they left. Not because of the smut itself.

It’s very easy to get caught up in pointing fingers @ the simple faceless category and label of “JDC,” but let me offer all o’ y’all a different perspective. I realize how some of you might fall into the dangers of singling me or one other member of my circle as being synonymous to our lil’ group, but when you conjure the name “JDC,” whom you actually refer to are…

Mr. Wallstreet :: Exceptionably nice individual w/ a genuine commitment and excitement for BX that no one else can even come close to offering. He has been with Basement X through thick and thin. He is invested in and consistently excited about its community enough to consistently post every weekday (and some weekends ;D ) regardless of all the shit he has to put up w/ IRL that e’eryone is, for the most part, clueless about.

CountDizzel :: Former Admin.

Fasheem :: Former Admin.

Junkogen :: Former Admin.

XIII :: No. 1 Basement X poster in more ways than just post count.

meek? :: Former Admin.

Sirocco :: … Twin of a Former Admin. ;D

And even though he now hates to admit it…

Stocky Lieberman :: BX favorite and once universally admired for his politeness, wit, and charm.

The gathering of these individuals was not by mere coincidence. What started as an inside joke between 2 friends blossomed into a sense of home and belonging for these Kings and Queen. @ one time, they were all able to laugh @ the same things and were able to contribute to the same Penthouse pot to keep the laughs goin’ where others were either too nice, too innocent, too clicky, too exclusive, too self-absorbed, too confusing, too bland, too judgmental, too extreme, or too hostile. They have the following ability that separates them from others…

Throwing in the odd comment during polite conversation can be hilarious, if you can master your timing and actually have a feel for the mood of your audience. If you can do this well, then randomly bringing obscene absurdities into an otherwise relaxed conversation can, of course, be hilarious. But it’s all about timing, context and mood of others.

Aside from this, delvin' more deeply, these once easily-overlooked individuals who happen to share the same sense of humor were chosen because inside each one, I also saw potential. And I was right as I saw each grow out of the peripheral into more committed and central roles. We didn’t always all get along. That’s what made the dynamic work and that’s what made us less of a click and more of a collective. I don’t think you’ll find us all together in a thread cacklin’ @ inside jokes and talkin’ shit and makin’ fun of other people outside of each other and ourselves. We disagreed, we went through fits and tantrums, and I know we grew tired of @ least one other member @ one point or another… just like e’eryone else. But when one of us strayed, we didn’t stay away too long ‘cause one… or even two brothers… would find a way to bring that stray back to where we knew we all belonged. Eventually, we were self-healing. When it’s all said and done, in times of good and bad, the JDC alumni were the ones mostly responsible for keeping the remnants of a community afloat. And what resulted was a small unbreakable community w/ near zero hang-ups and incidents. What we always longed for.

And it was a tall order as we inherited a legacy of mistrust and drama.

To diminish the contributions of the members of the JDC over the course of 6 plus (?) years into simple T&A, dick, humping commentary, and inside joke sigs that most o’ y’all chose to be in on is asinine, out-of-touch, uninformed, and, yes, offensive.

I’ve already been personally accused of bein’ petty and resistant to change behind my back. I’m glad I made enough lasting connections w/ people who are more informed and fit to speak in my absence and on my behalf. Thank you. Junk’s been bombarded w/ hostile taunts and accusation after accusation in-b/w gettin' spoon-fed w/ readily identifiable bullshit. I refuse to let him go down in flames.

It’s only been what… 1 or 2 weeks? And y’all ALREADY embroiled in one o’ those ancient and useless bullshit vaccuum argument threads of the past that sucks E'ERYONE and their mamas in. Unfortunately, it’s a legacy and influence of divisiveness that the old guard carries w/ them. Sorry to say… but least common denominator. We’ve had no such problems when they weren’t here to “save” us. We saved and checked ourselves and each other. We didn’t need to be coddled. Lookin’ down @ the site, this is a vBulletin board. Is there not an Admin-enabled permission set that allows the user the option in their respective Control Panels to hide and show Visible Post Elements, including sigs, avatars, and image codes, in the Thread Display Options box? ??? Disclosing that woulda saved a lot o’ innocent people some problems and headaches. And the fact that no one was willin’ to look for an alternative that suits not just one antiquated crusade, but literally everyone’s needs and that it had to come down to Andy and Wendorf squarin’ off speakin’ in absolutes… if that’s not a huge red flag and a sign of things to come, Iunno what is.

I’m not a prophet, but this is just a tip of the iceberg of what I foresee. I know my history well and continue to learn from it. We should actually be glad that this discussion took place in a public forum instead of the closed doors and backroom dealings like long before. That is what you’ll be up against. A close ally today can and will very well be tomorrow's pariah. It may well be a small price to pay to maintain the community. Your call. Make no mistake, though… I am no ingrate. I’m very pleased that someone that was able to step up did step up for the good of the people and, hopefully, not just one person. If I didn't think it was fantastic in the beginning, I wouldn't have mobilized the absolute best moderators I can think of to succeed me in my duties. But I’m just keepin’ it honest w/ the bad and the good. I give both credit and critique where and when they're due. I offer no manifesto or call to action. I care about most of you, but I’m gon’ continue treatin’ y’all as adults and you’ll have to make yo’ own choice as I have.

After this fiasco, whate’er this place becomes, I no longer want any part of it if/when my time frees up. That "mature" drama, bullying shit… especially online? lol W/ the current overlying philosophies, it’s not gon’ go away and I’m just too grown for that.

In a strange twist, the positive that I walk away w/ from this whole discussion is now I @ least know where a handful of you truly stand. When dealin’ w/ a personal conflict, I don’t make it a point to make a me versus someone situation that forces others to choose. I exercise discretion and think private matters are just that. Private.

I grew to be a very simple man. In terms of friends, I live by a very simple philosophy. If you like me, then I welcome you to be and continue bein’ my friend. If you don’t like me, then don’t act like you do.

Enter the sunshine.

The best part. So, fortunately, not too long ago, I had a revelation and found new idealistic goals to set for myself. Meeting a few folks in NYCC got me thinkin’ on a different and higher level o’ possibilities that I may or may not reach. Still good side-goals nonetheless.

The comics and the con itself, while great, wasn’t what made my experience awesome.

It was finally sittin’ down to share a drink and shoot the shit w/ Arn and Mal while Arn serenaded me an MC Solaar joint in a dive-ass bar. ;D Apparently, Arn can flow, bitches. Mal attempted to look uninterested… but I can tell she was impressed.

It was chillin’ on the last day, takin’ a walk, laughin’ w/, and annoyin’ Farhizzel; and finally givin’ each other the back-and-forth shit that we’re used to givin’ each other online live and in-person, while we caught each other up in-b/w jabs w/ our real lives, our triumphs, and our tragedies.

It was goin’ on aptly short journeys early in the mornin’ havin’ breakfasts w/ Andy to ensure our bowel movements were well-synced to the times our bodies are accustomed to. I grew to be really sick o' just shittin' rabbit pellets.

It was walkin’ and talkin’ w/ Mikey @ our own comfortable pace lookin’ over swords and boobage; and waitin’ for each other to get outta panels. And not to mention lookin' over and appreciatin' his watercolors live and in-person in the company of French Toast and English Muffin w/ Tea.

It was choppin’ it up w/ a cosplayin’ Bart Allen Kid Flash in the DCUO line because, I swear to y’all right now, he straight up reminded me of Edbert. (More on that later, big guy. ;) )

This got me thinkin’ o’ things I wish to accomplish before I expire. I thought… wouldn’t it be a great experience…

… to grab a beer and catch Wendorf in action live @ a comedy club rockin’ a JDC t-shirt?

… to chaperone our lil’ big Edbert @ a beach in San Diego makin’ sho he puts on his Pool School inflatable arm bands and life-vest so he doesn’t drown?

… to dip Biscuit in-person after a successful day of accompanyin’ her takin’ dorky ninja-posed pictures in various sceneries and then havin’ a Photoshop and jam sketch session to commemorate the event?

… to grub on chocolates w/ Sherminator before and after visitin’ a kinky Anime costume store in Japan?

… to treat Jess to bulgogi and soju while she teaches me how to eat other Korean food?

… to write-off a business trip to Tampa to produce creator-owned work w/ ‘Rocco and then club @ night knowin’ full well my ass will be the designated driver for the evenin’?

… to write-off a business trip to visit Jimbo to produce creator-owned work, but secretly use the time to travel to different towns w/ him to visit Wal-Marts and Targets in search of hard-to-find AFs?

… to finally break brownie w/ CountDizzel and Countess Sam as I marvel @ Doug’s AF collection right before a trip out to Coney Island for hot dog eating competition training? KOBAYASHIIIII!!!! *shakes fist*

… to catch a screening of my fave flick, “Seven Samurai,” @ the Empera’s new digs?

… to meet Arn again but on the other side of a table @ Angoulême to give him a free sketch… and a sketchbook and a hardcover and a print, all autographed?

… to club w/ my brotha’, Mr. McDiddlePuffs himself, Joe Pimpin’ *pops Joe's collar* and be the oldest guy @ a SFSU sponsored event?

… to take SM out for a haircut and to meet some nice gay people to broaden his world-view and then laugh about it over deep-dish pizza or Greek?

Yop, I think those would be sick wid it. Basically, I’m lookin’ to travel all over and experience as much as I can while I can. The impetus would be the chance to take the connections I’ve made a step further since I now know fa sho that friendship offline w/ y’all is viable.

In Conclusion.

Sorry to get a bit sentimental on that ass. It’s just that this is my swan song, bitches. I started postin’ in the most troubled time in my life thus far. I was alone strugglin’ to rebuild e’erythin’ I lost and abandoned, but along the way, y’all gave me moments of pause to laugh hysterically and renewed my sense that there were really great people all over the world outside of the oppressive bubble I lived in. I wanna thank you for 2 presidential terms of acceptance, understanding, humor, loyalty, kindness, and patience. Best of all, you each gave me a broader world-view (that I, as a continual work-in-progress, always actively seek) on top of friends that I could proudly say… w/o hesitance or embarrassment… I met online. ;D Thanks for welcomin’ me to be a very small part o’ your lives and for allowin’ me to serve you for a time. Many thanks for all you’ve done. I won’t forget.

Wendorf, ‘Lee, Farhizzel, Arn, Doug, Brotha’ Joe, Steph, Edbert, Jess, Jimbo, Josh Mang, Double SS, SM, CeeB, Spacey and e’eryone in-b/w… I’ll catch y’all @ Facebook, MySpace, Urb, and/or I’ll give y’all a text or ring-a-ding! Take care and ALWAYS have fun!! Lo’e y’all!!

Churrs to the next step...!!

And for the last time @ Basement X…

*drums please…*

8) Peace…

And GOD bless.

meek?//darthmeek//Darth meek?//Raunchy McSlutbag//Earth-Prime meek?-El//meek?amaru Nara//meek?ami Teru//Dad//mic?

PS

Sorry, my brother Wendorf.

For now, the JDC is dead.

Tragic Angelus
02-26-2009, 05:16 PM
... That's not real... right?

CountD
02-26-2009, 05:22 PM
fuck.

now I have to start a facebook. someone please help.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 05:23 PM
... That's not real... right?

That's one-hundred percent real. I wouldn't joke about that.

Sucks....:sad:

wolf_2099
02-26-2009, 05:25 PM
That was one big ass block of text.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 05:25 PM
fuck.

now I have to start a facebook. someone please help.

It's easy. Just go to facebook and go through all their registration bullshit.

CountD
02-26-2009, 05:26 PM
that is pretty comprehensive

CBKA
02-26-2009, 05:39 PM
Kinda put things in perspective, right? :(

IrishCream
02-26-2009, 05:56 PM
...common, he's clearly not THAT busy :)

Sucks though. Mainly because he didn't give my ass a shout out. Ohs wells.

MGM
02-26-2009, 06:11 PM
I feel bad it came down to this. :(

IrishCream
02-26-2009, 06:18 PM
I blame you haha

Stocky Boy
02-26-2009, 06:44 PM
I shall make a better reply to Meek's update, when I have time. Today I'm going to go to sleep before 01:00.

Its a shame Meek won't be joining us in the short term, but who knows. Meeks a very sweet guy and I enjoyed meeting him in NY and ensuring he got his fix of Dunkin Donuts, which he can't get on the west coast. Glad he'll be persuing his goals more aggressively, God knows he fucking should be! :D

His summary of BX history is detailed, observant and polite, which is something I've always appreciated from him. I could never really accuse him of a lack of attentiveness, when talking to him. It's his perspective though. I don't want to be a schmuck about this but his perspective although very insightful and a much welcomed extra input, is not necessarily as accurate a snapshot of everyone's perspective at the time.

In fact, perhaps it's very much the case that BOTH of the contested points in the 'New Start' thread are true. Not just one of them, but BOTH, which in the spirit of Meek would suggest the best outcome would be to find a way for both parties to be satisfied.
I hope Meek feels that the sentence above is reflective of his thoughts, if nothing else of what I've written.


CountD -
Yes indeedy you need to get with the kids and get your arse on Facebook! :D

William McDert
02-26-2009, 06:57 PM
Blaming this on me and Shadowman is bullshit and I am in tears

Stocky Boy
02-26-2009, 07:02 PM
You raise a good point... if we blame you and Shadowman, in unity, maybe we'd all be bum chums again. :D

Lovely sacrifice by your esteemed self, good man.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 07:04 PM
In fact, perhaps it's very much the case that BOTH of the contested points in the 'New Start' thread are true. Not just one of them, but BOTH, which in the spirit of Meek would suggest the best outcome would be to find a way for both parties to be satisfied.
I hope Meek feels that the sentence above is reflective of his thoughts, if nothing else of what I've written.



Wow, I think you completely misinterpreted what he was saying. I don't think he agreed with what you, MGM, CC and Wolf are arguing for at all. In fact, I would say that he's as diametrically opposed to it as anyone. You might want to reread it. I'm not saying this to be mean or pull a "haha, I told you so," but if you respect the man at all then acknowledge what he actually said.

There's no need to change anything. Everything was fine until a few people thought it would be cool to strong-arm others into being more "work, outside-friend and parent friendly," which is absurd. The whole idea of needing to make any "official" changes is utterly absurd. In case anyone hadn't noticed, this is a message board called "Basement X: The Fanboy's Brothel." What about that says anything serious, responsible or grown-up? Nothing. As it shouldn't.

What I think he's saying is that what was "Basement X" is now dead. So there's really nothing to come back to, which now pisses me off even more because he was one of my best online friends here.

:finger:

William McDert
02-26-2009, 07:07 PM
I do see his point though, and I still feel bad for what I did because, in essence, I said, "The only fun you will be having is MY kind of fun" and that is complete bullshit and I'm suprised nobody stopped me.

On the other hand, everybody that has come to this new board is pretty much the people I feel "closest" to aka Arn, Stocky, Ed, Doug, Jess, Stepth, etc etc etc. You are the posters I see as "people" instead of mere web personas. I know I'm not as close with any of you as I used to be, but I also have a beard now so it can be blamed on facial hair if need be.

Really sucks that Mictongonaona isn't going to post here anymore though. It's like when Hal Jordan lost it and killed everybody and then the sun ate him or something. Only instead of losing his mind and being devoured, he's simply pulling a Superwee. Minus the gay sex. Or divided by the gay sex? I'm really bad at math.

Anyway, poop.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 07:08 PM
Blaming this on me and Shadowman is bullshit and I am in tears

I don't think he did blame you two for this current bullshit.

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 07:08 PM
Okay... then why are you still here being pissed off at us? I'm not saying I want you to go, because I don't. You're obviously unhappy here.

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 07:10 PM
It's like when Hal Jordan lost it and killed everybody and then the sun ate him or something. Only instead of losing his mind and being devoured, he's simply pulling a Superwee. Minus the gay sex. Or divided by the gay sex? I'm really bad at math.

Anyway, poop.

To be fair, isn't Hal a good guy again? ^_^

William McDert
02-26-2009, 07:11 PM
I don't think Junk is pissed, I think he just enjoys the arguing. Perhaps not about this specific topic, but debating in general seems to be a niche of his.

Stocky Boy
02-26-2009, 07:12 PM
I didn't misinterpret Meek.

Absurd is hardly the word to describe people voicing that they would rather most of the board be a bit more average person friendly. There is a desire to change. It's not strong arming. We raised a thread, we haven't gone and charged ahead with change.

The board should be what people want it to be - it's clear not everyone wants to feel threads all over the board are going to be derailed with toilet humour.
It never was as fine as either you or Meek suggest it was.

This is an extention of the 'New Start' thread. I think we've both exhausted our discussion on this topic.

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 07:14 PM
I don't think Junk is pissed, I think he just enjoys the arguing. Perhaps not about this specific topic, but debating in general seems to be a niche of his.

I think we should get together (all kiss and make up) and find the loser that used to run xsorbit. We owe him an ass kicking for disturbing the peace!

William McDert
02-26-2009, 07:15 PM
Andy, to be fair, the hot topic of the moment is the "new start" thread so snippets of feelings intended for that thread are bound to show up elsewhere, especially in a topic such as this which is a direct spin-off of "New Start."

Like, you know the Griffins will show up in The Cleveland Show. Same thing.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 07:28 PM
Okay... then why are you still here being pissed off at us? I'm not saying I want you to go, because I don't. You're obviously unhappy here.

You know what? You're absolutely right. Why the fuck am I still here? I only spent the last 9 years posting with friends here. I mean, hell, I was only an administrator at the other board until it crashed. Wow, yeah, why would I care what happens here? :rolleyes:

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 07:32 PM
Well, as long as you're not bitter, sarcastic and rude, shucks!:grouphug:

I'm really not trying to start a fight. I'm hopeful we can ALL find some sort of happy median and be pals again.

wolf_2099
02-26-2009, 08:00 PM
On a side note. How is it, that when people form lists of this place, casting calls, goodbyes, etc, I am never on them? Ever.

I mean, I was here in the beginning, post whoring with Arn and M. I think I was even a mod.

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 08:02 PM
On a side note. How is it, that when people form lists of this place, casting calls, goodbyes, etc, I am never on them? Ever.

I mean, I was here in the beginning, post whoring with Arn and M. I think I was even a mod.

Because we've all vowed not to use your holy name in vain? ^_^

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 08:10 PM
I am extremely, extremely sad that Meek has decided not to join us here on these boards. He was one of my very best online friends and I had a helluva time hanging with him during the Con, and I intend to keep in regular contact with him on facebook and such.

I also wish Meek nothing but the absolute very best in his future endeavors. But I still hold out hope that Meek will one day return and join us here on these new boards, and that if he does return (along with anyone else who has vanished for their own reasons) we can look beyond personal differences and welcome him/them back with open arms.

Lastly, I truly hope no one else decides to leave; I enjoy all of your company immensely. I enjoy discussing, debating and most of all laughing with you all. Whatever issues we seem to have, let us please try to resolve them peaceably so as to not lose any other BXers.

In closing...DON'T GO! I HAVE ABANDONMENT ISSUES (seriously)!

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 08:16 PM
On a side note. How is it, that when people form lists of this place, casting calls, goodbyes, etc, I am never on them? Ever.


Blame the sheep in your avatar. That thing is weirder than that emoticon that looks like XIII :freak:

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 08:18 PM
Blame the sheep in your avatar. That thing is weirder than that emoticon that looks like XIII :freak:

Some nights when I'm on BX for too long I expect to find that sheep head in my bed. Movies and Cam have ruined my peaceful slumbers. ^_^

Tragic Angelus
02-26-2009, 08:25 PM
A number of points:

1. I contacted the mang himself to get the thruth, and it pains me to learn that it really did happen, and that he's done for the time being with Basement X/Board X/Jedi Council type message boarding, and sticking to Facebook/Myspace/Cell Phones and the like. Luckily I still ahve one of my closest friends from this board that way. If it wasn't for new social networking, I'd be vastly more upset than I already am about this.

2. While I am a Hal Jordan supporter, I know for a FACT that meek? himself would be hella pissed that you just equated him with that character. He'd NEVUH let that go down at all! So While that inside joke made me laugh, I know he wouldn't react as well, and end with something along the lines of "Hell na sun, cause Hal Poordan's a whiny puss, and meek? sho' as hll ain't, fo' sho'" or some such thing.

3. If Junk leaves because of all of this, I'll be very very upset because he too is one person who I greatly greatly enjoy on this board, from his ability to run rings with ShadowMan to his constant humor, gutter mind and everything else. Like Kid said, I've grown close to all of you and look at you as people, not usernames and avatars, and having people leave is like having a friend walk away, similar to what happened here. Which brings me to:

4. How very very very upset I am that those of you who did turned this thread into an extension of your goddamned Fresh Start bullshit. I'm fucking tired of it by now and the tension it's creating everywhere, and for someone to send their goodbye here and have the thread almost immediately become a 'If it wasn't for this..' and 'you dont' know he did it because of that' and 'why are you still here' fucking bullshit. I'm seriously, seriously angry at how quickly THIS particular thread went off topic into that shit.

We go through this almost every other goddamned year, and people always get sick of each other for a time, and things still never change. WHY do we always have to do this?


And like I said, I'm very upset that meek? has decided to take some time off, but I understand his real reasons for doing so. He's got a lot he wants to do and accomplish, and he needs to take the time to do so. I'm proud of him for doing it.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 08:33 PM
I am extremely, extremely sad that Meek has decided not to join us here on these boards. He was one of my very best online friends and I had a helluva time hanging with him during the Con, and I intend to keep in regular contact with him on facebook and such.

I also wish Meek nothing but the absolute very best in his future endeavors. But I still hold out hope that Meek will one day return and join us here on these new boards, and that if he does return (along with anyone else who has vanished for their own reasons) we can look beyond personal differences and welcome him/them back with open arms.

Lastly, I truly hope no one else decides to leave; I enjoy all of your company immensely. I enjoy discussing, debating and most of all laughing with you all. Whatever issues we seem to have, let us please try to resolve them peaceably so as to not lose any other BXers.

In closing...DON'T GO! I HAVE ABANDONMENT ISSUES (seriously)!
:iagree:

I really don't want to leave, but if people start pulling power trips, I'm not putting up with it. I am a strong believer in free speech and free expression.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 08:40 PM
If you leave, I will start cutting off my body parts and start mailing them to you.

One appendage at a time :mad:

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 08:51 PM
A number of points:

1. I contacted the mang himself to get the thruth, and it pains me to learn that it really did happen, and that he's done for the time being with Basement X/Board X/Jedi Council type message boarding, and sticking to Facebook/Myspace/Cell Phones and the like. Luckily I still ahve one of my closest friends from this board that way. If it wasn't for new social networking, I'd be vastly more upset than I already am about this.

What, you thought I was lying?:)


3. If Junk leaves because of all of this, I'll be very very upset because he too is one person who I greatly greatly enjoy on this board, from his ability to run rings with ShadowMan to his constant humor, gutter mind and everything else. Like Kid said, I've grown close to all of you and look at you as people, not usernames and avatars, and having people leave is like having a friend walk away, similar to what happened here. Which brings me to:

:D Oh, Ed. You're my hero. *swoon*


4. How very very very upset I am that those of you who did turned this thread into an extension of your goddamned Fresh Start bullshit. I'm fucking tired of it by now and the tension it's creating everywhere, and for someone to send their goodbye here and have the thread almost immediately become a 'If it wasn't for this..' and 'you dont' know he did it because of that' and 'why are you still here' fucking bullshit. I'm seriously, seriously angry at how quickly THIS particular thread went off topic into that shit.

Actually that farewell post has a lot to do with the "Fresh Start" thread and is primarily why he wrote it. If you don't believe me, you should carefully reread the preamble to the main post. Again, I'm not trying to pull an "I told you so" or anything like it really makes any difference, but he clearly does agree with my stance on the issue about changing the board. So I didn't want Stocky to distort the truth and make it seem like he had some kind of balanced outlook on this whole "clean up the boards" hysteria. I obviously can't speak for the guy, but I think it's fair to say that he's much more inline with my stance on the issue. I refuse to let his opinion get dampened down like that. So if that offends you, Ed, I'm sorry. But Stocky doing that offended me; so I responded.

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 08:56 PM
I don't want Junk to leave and I'm very sorry if it ever came off that way. I haven't even really gotten to know the guy before. At the moment all I can say for certain about Junky is that he's very spirited. ^_^ When I asked why he was still here I was asking a question that I thought needed to be posed.

wolf_2099
02-26-2009, 08:58 PM
Blame the sheep in your avatar. That thing is weirder than that emoticon that looks like XIII :freak:

I took that picture myself.

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 08:59 PM
Pervert

wolf_2099
02-26-2009, 08:59 PM
Some nights when I'm on BX for too long I expect to find that sheep head in my bed. Movies and Cam have ruined my peaceful slumbers. ^_^

That sheep is my arch-nemesis.

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 09:01 PM
I'm both curious and afraid to ask what you were doing so close to a sheep that you were able to take it's picture. And a high quality picture at that.

wolf_2099
02-26-2009, 09:07 PM
I'm both curious and afraid to ask what you were doing so close to a sheep that you were able to take it's picture. And a high quality picture at that.

I was at a county fair. In the sheep barn.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 09:12 PM
I was at a county fair. In the sheep barn.

And I think I can guess at least one item you had with you: a pair of Velcro gloves.

:lipsrsealed2::D

StoneTable
02-26-2009, 09:15 PM
Do you guys want me to leave? I get the sneaking feeling that all of this is because some "outsider" is ruining things? No one's bothered saying it to me directly but it's been implied by more than one.

All I wanted to do is give folks a permanent place to hang, after the shit that kept going down with xsorbit.

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 09:20 PM
Do you guys want me to leave? I get the sneaking feeling that all of this is because some "outsider" is ruining things? No one's bothered saying it to me directly but it's been implied by more than one.

All I wanted to do is give folks a permanent place to hang, after the shit that kept going down with xsorbit.

I won't speak for others, but I certainley do not want you to leave. You have created a place for us to continue to hang out and have fun when our old home burned to ground. You did it in record time and did it without really knowing us and have been great at helping us make this a better place. That is a classy thing to do for people you do not really know

When I said, I do not want anyone to leave, that most certainly includes you. I would like for you to stay so we can get to know you better. :)

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 09:20 PM
Do you guys want me to leave? I get the sneaking feeling that all of this is because some "outsider" is ruining things? No one's bothered saying it to me directly but it's been implied by more than one.

All I wanted to do is give folks a permanent place to hang, after the shit that kept going down with xsorbit.

Dude, not at all. It's awesome what you've done for us. I wish you'd post more so we could get to know you better. :coolgleam:

Speaking for myself, if I had a problem with you, I'd let you know.

All this drama has nothing to do with you or anything you've done at all. It's about some people trying to "fix" what really isn't broken.

ChimeraCreative
02-26-2009, 09:22 PM
I'd love you more if you do the kitty litter, Stoney...:lips:

And your second line of sig kills me. ^_^

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 09:22 PM
I was at a county fair. In the sheep barn.

Like I said: Pervert

;)

Tragic Angelus
02-26-2009, 09:25 PM
What, you thought I was lying?:)

No, not at all. I just needed to hear it directly from him as well for full conformation. I trust you, and know for a fact no one can really do meek? speak as well as the main man himself.

:D Oh, Ed. You're my hero. *swoon*

What can I say? I like who I like and I'd be upset if people started to leave because of other people/opinions around here.


Actually that farewell post has a lot to do with the "Fresh Start" thread and is primarily why he wrote it. If you don't believe me, you should carefully reread the preamble to the main post. Again, I'm not trying to pull an "I told you so" or anything like it really makes any difference, but he clearly does agree with my stance on the issue about changing the board. So I didn't want Stocky to distort the truth and make it seem like he had some kind of balanced outlook on this whole "clean up the boards" hysteria. I obviously can't speak for the guy, but I think it's fair to say that he's much more inline with my stance on the issue. I refuse to let his opinion get dampened down like that. So if that offends you, Ed, I'm sorry. But Stocky doing that offended me; so I responded.


Way to tear down my last point you damned sonofabitch :D But yea, I know it was part of it, but I know he's also got other things going on as well. I'm simply sorry to see him go. Neither you nor Stocky offend me, and I realize both of you wanted to defend your respective opinions, but to me this thread in general was not the place. To me it simply came off as a 'oh well he's gone, let's talk about my stance on other issues instead.' No offense meant to anyone in particular, but that's how it came off to me.

ST, as far as I can tell, you are not the problem or blame for any of this. It's just simple shit that's been brewing for awhile and has decided to rear it's head again.


*sigh*

I just want to talk about random things with this group of friends that my friends have no intrest, clue, or desire to talk about.

Can we just get back to doing that?

:(

William McDert
02-26-2009, 09:37 PM
Junkogen: That is some bullshit man. Ed was just agreeing with what I said so I should your hero you giant douche.

Junkogen
02-26-2009, 09:43 PM
Junkogen: That is some bullshit man. Ed was just agreeing with what I said so I should your hero you giant douche.
You didn't name me specifically in your post, which means you only think of me as some kind of cheap "etc." That's not what heroes do; at least not in any comic book I'd want to read. :finger:

Mr Wallstreet
02-26-2009, 09:43 PM
You know what? Fuck you all. If there's anyone's feet Junk should be kissing, IT'S MINE!

CBKA
02-27-2009, 07:22 AM
I didn't misinterpret Meek.

Absurd is hardly the word to describe people voicing that they would rather most of the board be a bit more average person friendly. There is a desire to change. It's not strong arming. We raised a thread, we haven't gone and charged ahead with change.

The board should be what people want it to be - it's clear not everyone wants to feel threads all over the board are going to be derailed with toilet humour.
It never was as fine as either you or Meek suggest it was.

This is an extention of the 'New Start' thread. I think we've both exhausted our discussion on this topic.

The way is was done was bullshit though. If MGM had just asked if id cut it back a bit i gladly would have. Taking a swipe at me and trying to install bullshit rules was always gonna start problems.

CBKA
02-27-2009, 07:26 AM
If you leave, I will start cutting off my body parts and start mailing them to you.

One appendage at a time :mad:

Can i have your ear? my dogs are peckish:)

CBKA
02-27-2009, 07:30 AM
Do you guys want me to leave? I get the sneaking feeling that all of this is because some "outsider" is ruining things? No one's bothered saying it to me directly but it's been implied by more than one.

All I wanted to do is give folks a permanent place to hang, after the shit that kept going down with xsorbit.

I dont even know who you are.

btw, who are you? :confused:

CountD
02-27-2009, 09:02 AM
someone hold me.

CBKA
02-27-2009, 09:27 AM
someone hold me.

:grouphug:

William McDert
02-27-2009, 12:23 PM
Stonetable Andrea's husband and he made this board.

ChimeraCreative
02-27-2009, 01:15 PM
Stonetable Andrea's husband and he made this board.

And for our next trick, CBKA will ask who Andrea is. :rolleyes:

Tragic Angelus
02-27-2009, 01:17 PM
And for our next trick, CBKA will ask who Andrea is. :rolleyes:

Isn't that American for 'Arnaud'?

ChimeraCreative
02-27-2009, 01:27 PM
Isn't that American for 'Arnaud'?

:svengo:

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/waffen/violent-smiley-010.gif

Tragic Angelus
02-27-2009, 01:42 PM
I believe I just got the death sentence in 2 countries.


Also, 12 Systems.

The French Biscuit
02-27-2009, 08:43 PM
*we interrupt this thread to bring you a pertinent piece of Photoshop*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/The_Ninja/meeks_angels.png

This whole communicating/giving mod permission via other people made me think of Meek as Charlie and this wee trio as the Angels. Though in retrospect since Junk was given the big mission statement from Meek, I guess that makes him Bossley.

But he looks so much better as Cameron Diaz. :D

*we now return you to your regularly broadcast program*

William McDert
02-27-2009, 09:22 PM
Gee

Zues

Christ

Breathtaking. You three are breathtaking.

Fasheem
02-27-2009, 09:28 PM
So what exactly is all this shit anyway?

CBKA
02-28-2009, 08:38 AM
And for our next trick, CBKA will ask who Andrea is. :rolleyes:

Who is andrea?:laugh4:

Tragic Angelus
02-28-2009, 12:29 PM
So what exactly is all this shit anyway?

meek? wont' be coming back, and this is his 'goodbye to everyone' message as reported to Junk. If you wish to speak with him, you can via Facebook, Myspace, phone, text messages, and the like but he's done with the message board. Still our friend, just has things he wants to do, and doesn't want to deal with what changes are being discussed.


I miss him already :(

jedispyder
02-28-2009, 12:35 PM
...he'll be back. Eventually this place drags you down and you return...just you wait and see...

For now, it was always fun seeing you here, meek. I do hope you come back...

Fasheem
02-28-2009, 09:46 PM
meek? wont' be coming back, and this is his 'goodbye to everyone' message as reported to Junk. If you wish to speak with him, you can via Facebook, Myspace, phone, text messages, and the like but he's done with the message board. Still our friend, just has things he wants to do, and doesn't want to deal with what changes are being discussed.


I miss him already :(

I don't think he has any problem with discussion. Or change even.