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wolf_2099
02-16-2009, 02:58 PM
Was this really only 37 issues?
How did I not know this?
Why did I not purchase it at the con?
Was it very good?
Mr Wallstreet
02-16-2009, 04:40 PM
Was this really only 37 issues?
How did I not know this?
Why did I not purchase it at the con?
Was it very good?
Yes
No Idea
No Idea
Awesomely Good!
wolf_2099
02-16-2009, 05:03 PM
Yes
No Idea
No Idea
Awesomely Good!
Well, maybe someone (you) should have been more on the ball and informed me.
I needed more comics to carry home.
:D
wolf_2099
02-16-2009, 10:59 PM
I just ordered this entire run online. Minus the 4 issues I owned.
Along with my missing 7 issues of the 2000 welcome home frank series.
Should be fun!
Mr Wallstreet
02-17-2009, 04:48 PM
Well, maybe someone (you) should have been more on the ball and informed me.
I needed more comics to carry home.
:D
I did inform you. I informed the whole board. I created a thread about it in the Marvel Forum on the old boards where it's awesomeness was discussed at length.
Even the foremost expert on Ennisism (Stocky) joined the discussion.
Maybe you should spend less time post-whoring and more time reading and absorbing my posts :D
Stocky Boy
02-17-2009, 05:23 PM
It's a lot different to the MAX run, Wolfster.
It was Punisher, as Marvel allowed Ennis to do it, before they gave him more of the lease to really explore some dirty tales.
The Max series was never expressly set in the normal Marvel universe. Your only link was Nick Fury and even he was portrayed in a way that could have suggested that the MAX series was slightly removed from the normal Marvel-verse.
Punisher MK is set in the Marvel-verse, but in order for Ennis to get away with violence, he makes the book largely humorous. Think of the Punisher War Zone series and imagine 37 issues spanning several story arcs. And bare in mind this: the first story arc is the story with Elite and fucking hell that shit is dark and funny. :D
Once you've read the first trade, you may/may not look at the Thomas Jane film in a slightly different light and think, "really? You made this film out of this material?"
wolf_2099
02-17-2009, 07:23 PM
I liked the Thomas Jane movie. hrm.
I figured, I bought the wolverine 2 parter, and enjoyed it. So.
Stocky Boy
02-18-2009, 01:11 AM
I know you liked the film. I'm pretty sure you'll still like it after reading volume 1, too. But, once you've read it, you may think, "from the material - they could have done much better".
wolf_2099
02-18-2009, 01:36 AM
I know you liked the film. I'm pretty sure you'll still like it after reading volume 1, too. But, once you've read it, you may think, "from the material - they could have done much better".
Hmm.Okay.
I guess we shall see when the comics arrive!
Stocky Boy
02-18-2009, 02:09 PM
The Spacker Dave and Fat guy jokes are hilarious in the comic. Oh and by the way, the female neighbour was never a hot supermodel, she was a quiet, shy girl. There was shit loads of comedy in the book.
Not saying the Thomas Jane film was bad in it's own right. Taken on it's own terms it's alright. But, from the material they had to ork from, they could have done much better and kept more in line with the book. If you judge the film as an adaptation - it's awful.
I want to have a Punisher Max Omnibus.
Also, why do I not have a complete run of MK Punisher?
The way Marvel apparently does omnibi (except Alias, that one is complete), you'll probably end up with half the MAX run.
Mr Wallstreet
02-18-2009, 04:51 PM
Not saying the Thomas Jane film was bad in it's own right. Taken on it's own terms it's alright. But, from the material they had to ork from, they could have done much better and kept more in line with the book. If you judge the film as an adaptation - it's awful.
Oh Stocky, you're so transparent. :D
You don't hate the Punisher film because it was a bad film, You hate the Punisher film because it butchered the source material of your god: Garth Ennis. :D
The way Marvel apparently does omnibi (except Alias, that one is complete), you'll probably end up with half the MAX run.
Yeah, I don't really see them putting out a 59-issue hardcover.
wolf_2099
02-19-2009, 01:31 PM
I think they would include the first half, 1 barracuda mini series and never publish the second half.
wolf_2099
02-19-2009, 01:49 PM
Exactly.
Christ man, try typing more than 1 word.
Or maybe I was agreeing and referring to this:
The way Marvel apparently does omnibi (except Alias, that one is complete), you'll probably end up with half the MAX run.
wolf_2099
02-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Then quote them so I have some idea what you are speaking of! >.<
I'm disappointed you don't simply read the entire thread. :D
wolf_2099
02-19-2009, 01:55 PM
Why would I ever, ever want to do that?
So that you wouldn't say things that've already been said.
Buncha whores! All of you!!!
wolf_2099
03-24-2009, 02:10 PM
I read Welcome Home Frank.
Pure awesome.
Garth Ennis should have had writing credits for the Punisher movie. They lifted the entire story from that one arc.
wolf_2099
03-24-2009, 02:10 PM
Oh, and killing the Russian by dropping a fat guy on it for half an hour? Pure awesome Ennis.
Yeah, about that...
Welcome back, Frank is one of the most funny storylines I've ever read. On the one hand I'm sorry Ennis had to let that incarnation of the Punisher go, on the other hand it gave us Punisher MAX, which was equally awesome.
wolf_2099
03-24-2009, 02:22 PM
And we still have that 37 issue run of Punisher that followed, too.
Which is next!
Stocky Boy
03-24-2009, 02:58 PM
I read Welcome Home Frank.
Pure awesome.
Garth Ennis should have had writing credits for the Punisher movie. They lifted the entire story from that one arc.
Do you see what I mean though about the complete difference of the film against the book where most ideas were lifted from?
Whether you like or hate the Thoms Jane Punisher, it confuses me how they could have made the film they did and it's so much different from the book where they lifted most of the ideas from.
Death by fat guy is hiliarious! Even the really obvious jokes like the fat guy ordering so much pizza and having a steel toilet fitted is funny.
wolf_2099
03-24-2009, 03:00 PM
Oh yeah. I really liked the movie. I think it would have worked as a movie if they had moved it to it to NY, and kept police and and crime family, while removing the humor though.
wolf_2099
03-26-2009, 02:43 PM
The first arc of his second MK run is...
I don't even know.
Nuts, insane, crazy, and I don't mean that in the cool shit way, I mean certifiably.
I liked it.
Stocky Boy
03-26-2009, 06:18 PM
What happened in that one again?
I take it you've read past the Wolverine arc? Possibly the funniest take on Wolverine and most improbable take on his healing factor within a main universe book. :D
I'm also assuming the first arc covered Ma Gnucci, Elitist and the other two would be vigilantes?
The first arc of the second MK run is the return of The Russian, with some sort of general on an island with an army of mercenaries and the like.
Mr Wallstreet
03-26-2009, 08:15 PM
The second storyline featuring the return of the Russian is one of my favorites from the entire series. Everyone talks about using other another person as a human shield but seeing Castle actually use Spider-man as a human shield was balls to the walls funny.
wolf_2099
03-27-2009, 02:06 AM
What happened in that one again?
I take it you've read past the Wolverine arc? Possibly the funniest take on Wolverine and most improbable take on his healing factor within a main universe book. :D
I'm also assuming the first arc covered Ma Gnucci, Elitist and the other two would be vigilantes?
The 12 issue Vol 5 welcome home Frank, that the movie was based on included Ma and the 3 Vigilantes.
JI just started Vol 6, the 37 issue run with the first arc with the Russian. Apparently the next 6 issues are not Ennis. Fuckers.
I have read that Wolvie arc years ago though, barely remember it.
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